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I can't find a program I wanted from the software centre, so had to download a tar file, but it wont install. Do I have to have a degree in physics or coding just to get it to install? I can't understand why a mouse click wont start the install process? I've tried to figure out the 'compile' etc commands, but I can't do it. Thanks

Rush
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  • tar is short for tarball; a means to install programs in 1979 on very different systems (aix, unix, bsd, ... hp/ux). it's really just a compressed file, which you must expand & follow the enclosed readme (usually a 'make' which explores your system & works out what OS is running, how to install, then 'make install'). It's a good system that is machine independent (works regardless of whether or not you have gui); and the same code we used in 1980 works today. I like consistency. have you installed build-essential ? – guiverc Sep 28 '17 at 10:08
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    Please understand that one of the reasons Ubuntu is so safe is that we do not usually click on stuff downloaded from the Internet. For very special software or for testing we may have no other choice than to install from source but this should be exceptional. – Takkat Sep 28 '17 at 10:25
  • I understand Linux is not intended to be merely "easy" without responsibility. Ramsonwares and other tech-plagues exist due to Windows easiness. – Redbob Sep 28 '17 at 11:44
  • At least you admit it's not easy. I am tired of these people who say 'it's so easy even my gran uses it' what utter bs. My parents use windows, which they can usually manage ok. If I they tried to use linux, they would not have a chance – Rush Sep 28 '17 at 12:25
  • And I'm still left staring at a tar file that I cannot install. I think its justified to say Balls to linux – Rush Sep 28 '17 at 12:29
  • @Rush: My granny uses Ubuntu and she's happy with it. She calls me more frequently about issues with her Windows system. Then again she doesn't try to install random software off the internet and sticks with what's in the Software Center because here needs don't extend beyond that. Whether Ubuntu/Linux is simple depends on what you want to with it and whether your use case was included in the software design – just like with any other technology. – David Foerster Sep 28 '17 at 14:05
  • The software center doesn't always have the programmes people want to use. I guess your granny does nothing more than surf the web and check emails then. If windows are Linux are set up first, then sure most people can use either system for that - but linux often needs drivers which are often harder to find and install than windows. For trying to actually do stuff though, Linux is pathetic. In windows, more often than not, to do simple things and even semi complex things, a mouse is all you need. You only need to start going into msconfig etc for under the hood stuff. – Rush Sep 30 '17 at 01:11
  • I linux, the terminal often has to be used for simple stuff. This granny analogy is shit anyway at least the way you people use it. It's like saying my granny can sit in a race car so she is a good as Schumaker. Yea, cos she never has to drive the car, just look at a few buttons and press them. If she did actually have to drive it, she would find windows far easier. The ABSOLUTE proof is in the pudding. It is UNDENIABLE - Linux is FREE! Yet next to nobody uses it. They would rather pay big bucks for windows because it simply works and is usable without having a degree in techno wank. – Rush Sep 30 '17 at 01:12

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Mr Rush every in learn has to be given some period to understand it. When installing using a tar file we have to follow certain steps to get it installed:

  1. Download the tar file

  2. Untar it with tar -xvf finename.tar

  3. Change into the untarred file and inside you will find a README file to direct you on how to install the application as was intended or designed by the owners.

  4. For step 3 we may see a simple install script that we may have to make installable (depending on whether that has already been done by the creators), from our terminal using the command:

    chmod u+x install.sh
    • Note that it can be called anything or even lack a file extension

  5. But ofcourse the tar file can be untarred by right clicking on it with your mouse and selecting Extra here.

Now to answer your click issue, Ubuntu comes with .deb package file that are installed using the mouse click, if you are asked to use a tar file then it's the creators fault and not Ubuntu. They were too lazy or busy to create a .deb package file. They alone can say why they prefer tar file rather than .deb files.

George Udosen
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  • With respect, why is it necessary to study this just ti install something? I really don't want to learn all that just to do basic things – Rush Sep 28 '17 at 10:19
  • Let me finish my answer and you will see that Ubuntu also has click install options – George Udosen Sep 28 '17 at 10:20
  • Thanks So hopefully we can skip those other steps and just click something and install it. Because I have difficulty following those other steps, and they definately are not click to instal... – Rush Sep 28 '17 at 10:26
  • OK, well I can't install it. The fact that tar files even exist is ubuntus fault anyway. Since there are so many of the damn things, this is not the first time I've come accros this problem Ubuntu still sucks ass Always has – Rush Sep 28 '17 at 12:17